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Online Dating Scam: Date Verification Part 1 - Your "date"

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A Cyber Documentary of the most prolific online dating scam - Get Verified. The scam is designed to charge your credit card, even though the sites assert that they are "free". This video shows exactly how the scam operates, and how risky it is to "Get Verified". Part 1 - Your Date, shows the websites and reveals how you are being scammed. Scam sites in this segment include Craigs Friend Finder Safe Local Friend Dating Safe and Single Written, narrated, and produced by Ronin Eternales. Theme Music: Song: End Game Artist: Per Kiilstofte https://machinimasound.com/music/end-game/ Narration Background Music: Song: Flight Hymm Artist: Ross Bugden https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQKGLOK2FqmVgVwYferltKQ All Music Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International. Flag images courtesy U.S. State Department. Stock Photos provided Courtesy Pexels.com and Pixabay.com (copyright free).
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GTG Nation (8 days ago)
Dude your a life saver!!! I don’t do online dating but my friends sweared up and down it works. So I try, but I downloaded one of the burner numbers app. Not finna have my real number just out here in these streets... So I exchange with this beauty TODAY and she gave me a link to verify my age & etc etc & she said it will make her feel safe etc... I click the link, (partnarsdatte.us) & another site pops up (freesafeplay.com) & it seems LEGIT as shit at face value... But it asks you for your CC to verify your age because you have to be 18+ to have a CC etc etc... RED FLAG,,, I don’t drop my CC on any unknown sites so I’m googling, researching, and YouTubing... That’s how I found you TODAY,,, bitch not finna get me...
Ronin Eternales (8 days ago)
Thanks for posting. It looks legit because they put a nice website in front of the scam. Your "date" was a dude named Siddharth (or someone who works for him) in Bangladesh. $140 per month in hidden charges are behind the fancy web pages.
Jimmy Jackson (16 days ago)
I am a member of the tagged dating website. Met a female on there gave her my number chatted for a lil while then she said she was in the same area as I without even knowing where I'm located. She then sends me a link to verify my age, so we could meet because she said she wanted to make sure she's I'm safe since we haven't met before. The link takes me to a tagged verification site is this a scam ?
Ronin Eternales (15 days ago)
yes, there is no such thing as a legit verification site. +1 you for asking first. If you could send me the link via the contact feature at my blog, i can use that information track and help others, thanks http://bit.ly/contactRonin
Dumb Bear (20 days ago)
Thx for posting the vid and I do appreciate it! A question is that, if I cancel my debit card which I used, would those websites still try to charge me in someway? Because I see that cancelling their service may not work sometimes for stoping being charged automatically. Thx a lot!
Dumb Bear (20 days ago)
+Ronin Eternales That's a great advice. Thx again Ronin!
Ronin Eternales (20 days ago)
Canceling the Debit Card was the right thing to do. They probably will attempt to charge you. Not knowing all the particulars (I'm not asking) I would say you should also cancel the service. There isn't much they can really do, but it avoids a nasty email fight. I also advise against using a debit card online. While you can use it like a credit card, it is in fact a cash transaction and in the US, it lacks the protections that come with a credit card.
Ronin Eternales (22 days ago)
I see a lot of guys coming here and asking questions. A lot of times it feels like they are in "click and hope" mode. I would like to suggest a different strategy: http://bit.ly/RoninOnAttraction
fuzi boobooz (4 hours ago)
Ronin....your voice is smooth as butter. I'm making a playlist outta this so I can repeat all night as I start to zzzzzzz. Then in the AM I'll understand everything you've been crooning all night about!!! LOL! Looks good on paper at least!!!😼🐾🐾
Frantz Ambroise (22 days ago)
This is very useful ! Thank you so much for this information !
Eric Eastman (22 days ago)
This is extremely useful ive gotten 4 of these so far they were all hot woman to good to be true and they pulled this same crap my mind was telling ok ill just put a loader card on there but my gut was telling me no! so i trusted my gut feeling and told them all no im glad i trusted my gut feeling after watching this ronin thank u very much this has been an eye opener for me
Fats Waller (22 days ago)
What about this website can you tell me if real or not I’m very suspicious https://securedatesonline.com/?a=1450&n=34&g=210&t=6
killercross 420 (22 days ago)
Scam buddy you should never have to put credit card info to meet a girl especially for age verification
Ronin Eternales (22 days ago)
Total Scam, Notice the written amount: "Your access to CamPleasures includes a 2 day free trial promo to Shine Love On Me. If you choose to remain a member of Shine Love On Me beyond the trial period, your membership will renew at thirty nine ninety nine. Your membership to CamPleasures will be Free for Lifetime. You will also receive a free membership to InboxPartners."
greg rothe (25 days ago)
so is there any verification card that is safe so i can met girls when they ask for a ID?
Ronin Eternales (25 days ago)
They are all scams. Such an I’d doesn’t exist.
greg rothe (25 days ago)
a lot of girls show cards that say verified so i wouldnt mind to get a secure one if safe ones even exist
Fernando Ortiz (1 month ago)
Can you use gift cards that are Visa so if it is a scam they wont screw you over if uts legit or not? Lol
Fernando Ortiz (1 month ago)
Good point.
Ronin Eternales (1 month ago)
Since they are all scams i am not sure why you would want to do that
Chris Doc (1 month ago)
Credit Cards and Debit Cards do not have anything to do with verifying someones age or background. A 10 year old can get a CC (Credit Card) as along as they put in the right info and act like they are of age to own a CC (Credit Card) or their stupid parents give them a CC (Credit Card) and/or Debit Card. All these company's are after is all your CC (Credit Card) or Debit Card info so they can take it and buy GC's (Gift Cards) to drain your CC (Credit Card) or Debit Card accounts. Then they take the GC's (Gift Cards) to turn them in for BIT Coins. The only way to verify someones age is by DOB (Date of Birth) or SS (Social Security) number and to verify someones Background is by using someones full name or SS (Social Security) number. All sites that say you have to have a CC (Credit Card) or Debit Card to verify your age and/or background are SCAMMERS!
Ronin Eternales (1 month ago)
you are right that a credit card does not verify your age the reason they want your credit card however is simply to sign you up for a dating site, or porn site (or sites) it is how unethical site owners drive traffic and membership
FILO (1 month ago)
Damn 2 girls wrote to me with the same story about here’s my link n they seem pretty real like when I click on the link it said it was free the first 2 day n all that without me doing the iframe Do you think it still is a scam?
Ronin Eternales (1 month ago)
yes, you dont 'do the iframe' that is what the website owner does to hide the fact that you are signing up for a crappy dating site, or porn site
enring kim (1 month ago)
(help me)I am Korean.I chatted with a foreign girl, but she said, "If you want to have sex with me, end the link." And she gave me a link.(http://rdsht.com/s3h2cj1 ) Is it true that when you sign up, you will return the money? Or is it a scam?
Ronin Eternales (1 month ago)
scam, sort of you get signed up for 3 different sites, at 39.99 each, per month there is no verification the charges are in fine print, but also they are in plain sight as well. The link shown is a case where they buyer should know they would be charged. I thank you for posting the link, i have recorded it and will use it in my investigations. I also ask that you edit and remove the link, I dont want that link to be propagated
Cuban4Life4 (1 month ago)
Help me out kind sir I’m talking to this chick on a dating app and she gives me her google hangouts info. We talk a lil bit, she says she needs to send me a link and put my information on the verification link. She insist that’s it’s free and that the only way to verify is by credit card info. I’m hella sketched to put any personal information. Scam ?
William Taylor (25 days ago)
Can u help me I don't have credit card n got date if verification
Ronin Eternales (1 month ago)
yes total scam please send me the link, and where you met 'her' you can use the contact feature on my website, http://theonlinedatingscams.com/contact
Robert Eller (1 month ago)
Now they disable rightclick on their pages so you cant see
Ronin Eternales (1 month ago)
in chrome view-source: http://scamsite
Tyler Ghersinich (1 month ago)
Ronin i am in the process of trying to get my money back from this scam. I called my bank. I have got in contact with websits. Do i need to do anything else
kanye k (1 month ago)
Tyler Ghersinich , I really don't think u can get that money back but ur bank can help to block them from doing an other transaction
Alexander Mitov (1 month ago)
Damn I got scammed
EriK Casados (13 days ago)
Alexander Mitov could you explain in more detail please
r g (1 month ago)
Can’t you use visa gift cards?
Tyler Ghersinich (1 month ago)
Hi is online dating protector real if so how do i get it
Tyler Ghersinich (1 month ago)
+Ronin Eternales thank ypu for your help. I have managed to save some of my money but i am still try to save the rest. But i am not going to get all of it back.
Ronin Eternales (1 month ago)
+Tyler Ghersinich That is a scam, no doubt she sent you to a website that was not what I discussed above. you can go to my website, and find out what you need to do, if you just search "what is (the name that appears on your credit card statement)" then you should find it. if that doesn't work go here https://theonlinedatingscams.com/shnvme-com/
Tyler Ghersinich (1 month ago)
+Ronin Eternales thanks you for your help i was talking to a girl. I tried everything to see her and talk to her in person. But she wanted me to have ODP. I said to her how about we meet once or twice before we hook up. But she said it was for her protection.
Tyler Ghersinich (1 month ago)
+Ronin Eternales okay
Ronin Eternales (1 month ago)
Online Dating Protector is a service provided by Venntro media group for it’s dating web sites. The intent is to provide assurance that the members on that website are real. They have a staff that monitors the site for scammers, etc. Venntro is a white label dating company that operates 3000+ dating sites. They are providing a service to their customers - the owners of dating sites. --> You don’t ‘get one‘
Joey Rhym (1 month ago)
They tried to get me too man I got scammed
adam love (1 month ago)
I'm getting verified right now
mrbenman97 (1 month ago)
Dude, this video just saved me from this scam, thanks a ton
Bishop Wilson (1 month ago)
Boys. "Shnvme" scam or real
Ronin Eternales (1 month ago)
+Bishop Wilson That matches the common profile of the scam. #nfw dude.
Bishop Wilson (1 month ago)
+Ronin Eternales me and this girl hit it off on uber and she seems real lol told me she wanted me to do this or we wouldn't meet up. The reason i think she's real is because she tried to call and sent personal asked for pica
Ronin Eternales (1 month ago)
shnvme is the billing site for shineLoveOnMe . com - a branded dating site that is operated by a white label dating company. Meaning that one company has a database of people, and many companies under different site names use the same database. shnvme is owned by staffordish limited, in Nicosia Cyprus. While there are legitimate, and non-legitimate ways to be signed up for any site like this, I found it by knowingly clicking thru a scam get verified site, and reading the hidden / hard to find terms. How did you come across this?
Peter Dixon (1 month ago)
Beware all chargeable dating related services and also "casual dating" websites which charge and which seem to have too many promiscuous women. If it looks too good to be true, it is untrue. Also look out for geographical and linguistical anomalies - inappropriate slang for a woman who is allegedly in your area, etc.
Miranda Lawson (2 months ago)
Scams everywhere
James Griffith (2 months ago)
thanks
Subarashi (2 months ago)
https://joinsafelyonline.com/join/?a_aid=LIBRA&a_bid=dd8f9e6c&autochan=&chan=code59&s=&a=&wlid=epic&username=&password=&email= is this fake or real?
Oliver Mickens (2 months ago)
Fake
Ben Tedrow (3 months ago)
Thanks man
David (3 months ago)
For those that actually got scammed, I am curious, what happens after you make the transaction? Do you get the Verification ID these bitches keep asking for?
Keia Carey (1 month ago)
lol...shit fake as hell...you can tell...lol
Jim Ausman (2 months ago)
It a guy in Nigeria.
Matthew Frye (3 months ago)
No ID given and there is no girl, and if there it's she is nowhere near you.
Ronin Eternales (3 months ago)
there is no girl
God Speed 2 (3 months ago)
These people are making the dating game more difficult for us males. We are forced to go dating sites because females are so pickyvin real. JUST TO BE TRICKED. What do us men have left porn. What have this world come to
Tyler Ghersinich (1 month ago)
+David i am at the point know were i am trying to get my money back i have sent emails to request it back. Do you have any ideas
David (1 month ago)
+Tyler Ghersinich Nice mate. Once I figured out their game, I played a game of my own until they got angry and left. It's far more entertaining. Try it out next time.
Tyler Ghersinich (1 month ago)
+David cheers mate i stopped talking to her today.
David (1 month ago)
+Tyler Ghersinich There's no online dating protector. Anyone who says that or anything similar is just scamming you. And watch out for girls who speak to you for weeks/months to gain your trust, then ask you to buy something for them because they "need it". It's a new method these broke sadistic scammers are using.
Tyler Ghersinich (1 month ago)
+David i know the feeling as well and i tried everything to see her but no. I need to get Online dataing Protector.
Angela Morris (3 months ago)
)Thank you very much. I learned.
James S (3 months ago)
Usually if a site starts with https it is secure. If it is just http it isn't. But I did just give my card info to one of these sites. I forget what it's called but it said my card info didn't work. I tried it 3 times because I'm stupid. My card hasn't been charged anything but it was just like 10 mins ago that I did this. Would it charge right away or no? I did tell the girl I was talking to (i know it's a female, I made her send a photo on Snapchat before I would sign up) that if my card was charged anything I had all her info and proof of being told the card # was not read and she would end up in trouble with the law.. so idk I'm hoping I'm ok. I'm annoyed at myself for being dumb
Alex Alvord (2 months ago)
Hey don't beat yourself up bro we've all done stupid things sometimes we don't always think with the bigger head lol. And it's so bullshit cuz the way girls can control us with there body's fucking bitches. I was talking to this girl she wanted me to get verified by sending 250 through PayPal I told her you verify it for me and then I'll just pay you back and no message back now.
David (3 months ago)
+Ronin Eternales   I completely agree and it's a lesson learned. Partly the reason she almost got me was the link she gave me had https, but it almost identical to the site you were on at 6:10; the site was shnvme.com. is it possible to have a secure connection (https) and while still be unlegit? Because that site was definitely sketchy.
Ronin Eternales (3 months ago)
The HTTPS means that the information between you (your browser) and the server is encrypted. It is an important security measure to keep your information secure. You should never enter personal/financial information if it is not https. HOWEVER THAT IT IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to this video. If you gave your information to one of these sites, you can be billed, and you have given your personal and financial information to some unknown company, somewhere between the UK, Cyprus and Bangladesh.
Ronin Eternales (3 months ago)
+David Likely this was a cam girl, and the "verified id" was really a sign up to the cam site; this is the case were you may be talking to a real girl, but in the end, there is no chance you will meet her, any other place than cam world
David (3 months ago)
+TwiizuhL I knew it was, and luckily it didn't go through. This girl just seemed different than all the others, she seemed more legit, more human; laughing, flirting , making proper conversation and shit. Bitches are crazy
OMEGA GAMES (3 months ago)
thanks man
Peter Burkitt (3 months ago)
is this one a scam as well https://www.safedatingassurace.com/safed/sexoffenderss69.html
Ronin Eternales (3 months ago)
Same ole schit. sign up for shine love on me crappy white labled dating service
Ronin Eternales (22 days ago)
One of the other tricks I have discovered is that they reject the first transaction, and ask you to try again. What is really happening is that the first transaction might be free, or very low cost. Then you are re-routed to a new "service" and the terms have changed to something much more expensive.
Liam Rankin (1 month ago)
you sir are a life saver.
Willy Master (1 month ago)
Thanks my man, I saved my credit card thank to you, because there was a beautiful woman talking with me right into my email address, she was sending me tons of hot and sexy pics, but I came right on YouTube to find out how legit was that web site before put all my information and credit card, but once again, thanks to your video I didn't do it 😁😁😁👍👍👍
Fox Thtree (1 month ago)
Thanks man I just took down one of there sites by using one of your methods
Toby Dyes (2 months ago)
are there any real sites
Ronin Eternales (2 months ago)
+Alex Alvord there is none. scams.
Matthew Parsons (4 months ago)
2nd part?
Ronin Eternales (3 months ago)
not likely, not worth the effort and cost of time; nobody really cares about it all that much, and half don't bother to watch, read or even pay attention, "refund my money or i will call the police" happens too often but i am glad to let it live here
Dacen Rodriguez26501 (4 months ago)
... I hate tinder I would rather use match
Alex Alvord (2 months ago)
See you say match I was thinking eHarmony. But aren't those mainly for people looking for love not just to hook up.
Shamroz Shamroz (4 months ago)
Dacen Rodriguez26501 hy
Hispanic Warrior (4 months ago)
This happened to me in Tinder, thank God I wasn't born yesterday and I didn't put my credit card 💳 number.
Frederick Nunez (2 months ago)
I never answer or click. I report and block. Nothing but indians
Lakshya Gangwar (4 months ago)
This is what I should have looked before losing a lot of money exactly like this :( good work
citykris (4 months ago)
Would you know any real hookup dating sites that are 100% legit? I'm really looking to meet someone online, are there any you would know that are genuine?
Ronin Eternales (4 months ago)
I am commenting on date verification sites, and none of them are real.
DJ PC Baby! (4 months ago)
just got burned today by "safe meet up provider" Now I learned the hard way...after I find this video!
Tim Payne (5 months ago)
Thanks, Ronin, just checked the source code..... "It's a trap!!"
g (5 months ago)
Never use Jaumo app. Full of scammers.
MrMuttley50 (5 months ago)
I just want to give you a little bit of advice, make sure you never go on this website. Victoria Harts. I lost $200 because I see a beautiful 45 years old Ukranian female and I start talking with her. She's sending me a video and ask me to watch her videos. Avarage video is cost you minimum 25 - 50 credits. The cheapest credit 125 credit for $50 so imagine that you watch two videos you out of credits
DARKNESS OFF FOOTBALL08 (5 months ago)
I have someone that is doing this to me thank god I found this
Frederick Nunez (2 months ago)
Never sign up for unauthorized websites
Reixa Ana (5 months ago)
Can you please telk me how to find out? Whitepage cannot help me since i Live in Spain😔😔
Billy Wilson-Neill (6 months ago)
Don't know if this is legit or not but somone is emailing me from free dater I'd saying that if I don't sign up to this dater id he will take $100 a day and $300 a week out of my account. I haven't put any bank details to him just doesn't add up how can it be $ 100 a day but then 300 a week that don't make sense but wanted to know what you guys think its a scam or not ?
Billy Wilson-Neill (5 months ago)
+Marcellus Shale thank you
Billy Wilson-Neill (6 months ago)
They also tried to get me to take a screenshot of my bank details I told them to get fuc***.
Ryan Scherbluk (6 months ago)
The thing is it's the Internet even if you don't do any these there are people out there that find ways. I had charges on my credit card and debit card just somehow got there. I've changed my card numbers so many times it hasn't happened to me in a why'll but my banks been good for letting me know these things right away but still happens. Stay save everyone if ya can.
mike gunthner (5 months ago)
Been scammed by this before, been getting junk dating websites
Jesse Schwarz (6 months ago)
I told a scammer I would call the cops on them just now
Stephen Galindo (6 months ago)
How do u get an online dating license
Ndl soild (5 months ago)
+Ronin Eternales lol
Ronin Eternales (5 months ago)
you dont they are scams
by COS (5 months ago)
Me too. How to get it?
John M Dibert (5 months ago)
Stephen Galindo I’m like you
Kaasafe (7 months ago)
I wish I saw this sooner I lost $120 dollars to this crap last night , now I have to call my bank and get a new debit card
David (3 months ago)
Kaasafe I am curious, What happens after you make the transaction? Do you actually get that Verification ID these bitches keep asking for?
Ronin Eternales (4 months ago)
Using a debit card online is never a good idea https://theonlinedatingscams.com/letter-from-a-reader-debit-card/
Jose Sanchez (6 months ago)
Kaasafe I was on a the “musician dating” site. I’m 62, and this 37 year old woman starts writing to me. Seems like place not to have someone try and scam you. It went well for a little over a week. She was very good, but she messed up. It’s best to pay attention to “everything” that is said. Our conversation was right on the site itself. I make it clear to women that I don’t have a lot of money and I’m retired. She told me twice she was not interested in money. But she also asked me twice what I did for a living. She said the second time that I’m a man and do I have in interest in having more money, or something like that?. She also stated earlier than she lived with her son and that her husband left her for another woman. Okay, no problem. It could happen. But today she told me that she did not have a home right now, but couldn’t go into the details. I started to respond to her saying these were red flags, but decided instead to just delete my profile. What I really wanted to say to her though is that her story didn’t make sense and that if she had no home, her son could be taken away from her. But what’s the point of confronting a person who has a profile that is probably fake anyway? Every dating site I have ever been on....has been more or less the same kind of situation. Fortunately, I had no paid membership for this site. I tried looking up information to find out if the site is a scam, but came up with nothing. I think it’s probably best that people around my age just live alone for the rest of our lives, not that anyone could get any money out of me. I hope everyone who reads what I have just said.....to read between the lines of what someone writes on any dating sites.
RIPU Singh (7 months ago)
Kaasafe i know they charge $60 tor once and they will try to email u threats like they will fine you and $50 every minute dont belive them theyre full of shit they will even say that they are reporting you and taking it to court just block them or reply some funny shit if u wanna have a good laugh😂😂
Ripu Singh (7 months ago)
Hey if you readin this i am gettin scammed by some online meetup id people and now when i say i dont wanna.pay they say they will fine me $600 for it and settle it legally if i do not cooperate....please advive +ronaneternals
Chris Doc (1 month ago)
Ripu Singh: There is nothing they can do legally because they are already running an illegal business. It's just a threat to get you to react. Just tell them you already got the FED's and/or your Government looking into it and watch them change their tune and run like the cowards they already are.
Jose Sanchez (6 months ago)
Ripu Singh I don’t know what to say, except that some people just want a reaction out of you, so it’s probably best just to stay out of that place and ignore them, and not respond at all. I just hope you didn’t give out too much personal information about yourself. They could live in another country like Nigeria though.
Mardig Bidanian (7 months ago)
The moment I see they want credit card info I know it's a scam dodged two bullets
Gem Writer (7 months ago)
This is why I only use sites that allow me to pay via paypal
Ryan Scherbluk (6 months ago)
Gem Writer oh there's scams with papal too trust me.
Jeremy Nent II (8 months ago)
Can you do a video on how to stop the scam
David (3 months ago)
+Administer Smith Come on Smith, Don't post a scam on a youtube video about detecting scams. That's stupid as fuck
Jose Sanchez (6 months ago)
Jeremy Nent II All scams are not the same so it may be hard to do.
Administer Smith (7 months ago)
Hey, we've been there and done that.Visit www.meetupverified.blogspot.com they will also help you to get a legitimate meetup for real. and avoid getting scam.
Ok a few items. Several years ago I began a research project for an op ed article regarding the online dating craze and what was behind it. I registered at over 50 sites from Christian Mingle (TM), to f***book. I used mostly male profiles involving different ages, professions, and financial status. I also did a handful of female profiles borrowing (with her permission, help, and oversight), some photos of a gal pal and some input from her on her profiles. At the end what I discovered was so bad that I was threatened legal actions by okcupid specifically who discovered me and my project in an event that had a huge legal fuss for a month. I opted out of selling the article and instead.....volunteered it to the AP wire service where it was picked up and carried in several publications. So you know, if an article says "contributed" that is what that means, volunteered for journalistic purposes. Heres the lowdown: 1) There is an international organized cartel operating out of Ireland. All the profile registries come from there as its a protected state. 2) They use servers in Asia and Eastern Europe also for protection purposes as most people dont understand origins source. NOTE: if you use Firefox, or opera.....go to "get extensions". In search bar type: netcraft This app will show you as you are in route, each server you bounce off of and where that is along the way giving a red, yellow, or green danger indicator. Finally it will display the actual country where you are on that page in real time. As far as okcupid......going to some user pages lands you in totally other countries, all while that user swears they are on okc USA. 3) Bots. This whole thing is tied directly into the New World Order, and they use bots because.....this is the offically sponsored testbed for A.I. (Artificial Intelligence). In 2016 "chatbots" were the next phase. These programs LEARN FROM YOU and your reactions. They are becoming very sophisticated as to what your true internal perfect mate is. Just a few weeks ago I ventured into my old POF account. I kept a few accounts active for occasional visits to update what they are doing. Within 24 hours I get connected to this fem fatale that totally had my inner deepest being motivated. It went slow. She talked about LOCAL PLACES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD because she was using the location app from the above video. She talked about the FOOD at a place and how the place was lousy. On the 3rd day she asked if she could have my email. I have an account just for this stuff and gave it. I got a picture, a very NORMAL picture and a nice message about how she was a career stripper who was getting older (43) and she was looking for a decent guy outside that so she could begin to acclimate to a normal persons life. This sort of chat went on for a week. Then one night she asked me: "Do you ever get tired and lonely and just want some one to be there." THESE ARE VERY SOPHISTICATED PROGRAMS GUYS. It was short and very realistic, as once I simply responded "Yes, I do", she responds, "Im thinking about you as far as us is concerned. Not really sure about things yet, but I may want to just have a coffee with you if thats alright and you wont be upset if it doesnt go further. Its just that my whole career in this business has shown me the darkest sides of men and I am not wanting to get into that anymore. If that coffee chat goes well, I may be good for a lunch date. Just want a step by step thing." Seemed very real. Over the few years I have ventured on some of these sites I have had a several dozen dates. This was going down basically exactly like they did. THIS BOT was realistic in the fact she was not pushy or ambitious, and even further was somewhat introspective. Next day she asked if she could share with me. I aggree thinking it was chat. She sent me some photos which I downloaded and REVERSE IMAGE SEARCHED. She was 90% real and legit. Thats the next thing......you see there are dating sites for women who are EXACTLY AS SHE DESCRIBED because its hard for strippers, adult models, and porn gals to find real and decent boyfriends, and thats the double edge. These sites are so good at getting your personalities, that they are doing it from those females as well and then combining them into a very intuitive program. Finally I was asked to go and verify. NEVER GOT TO A VERIFY SITE. IF YOU ARE A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER, there is a database of those and you are watched by the authorities ALWAYS. Mostly in the U.S. they set blocks on your ip address and alerts if you attempt proxy servers. I actually contacted the REAL woman at twitter. I am a known person there as I started a non commercial artist support organization. Thing is, she was also used and scammed. She told me she is a highly popular milf and gets that alot. Thing is, after chatting with her at twitter via PM, she was kind and informs me she wants an actually coffee date if she hits my city and a concert date as well. I am known in certain circles. Who knows, but I would never complain about a coffee with her. NOTE 2 : IF YOU EVER OPEN AN ACCOUNT AT ANY DATING/hookup sites.......once you decide to not continue, DO NOT SIMPLY ABANDON YOUR PROFILE AND DO NOT JUST WIPE IT. That works exactly like cutting a credit card and mailing it back which creates an alternative set of rules applied. (Just pay off the dam thing and cut it and trash it). On websites it creates an AUTO CONSENT to use any and all IMAGES AND INFORMATION FROM YOU FOR THE MASSIVE GLOBAL DATA BASE. Once you decide to leave , begin a 3 day - 1 week process of slowly clearing photos 1 at a time and replacing them with nature images and such. These intuitive programs rescan and update every few days so your images will get wiped from their archives. Also begin changes to your profile, DO NOT BLANK IT as that acts as a trip wire. Rewrite it with nonsense 1 section per sign in. Also change your location. NOTE 3: POSTING FOTOS.....I know we are vain and egotistical. Selfies are all the rage, however once you release an image THEY THEN OWN IT. They then create BOT PROFILES WITH THAT ALL OVER THE PLACE. I have 2-3 stock photos that I can image search/reverse image search on myself. Thats all there is or will be. I retain ALL RIGHTS to my image/s of myself and all depictions of my person or character. Summary: this is illuminati cyber warfare. That is why 100% of all dating apps since 2016 require a FACEBOOK CONNECTION. Facebook is wholly owned and overwatched by the CIA. Guys and gals are burned by this. Back in 2012 when I did my article, I estimated then that the site bot count was an average of 60% even at CHRISTIAN MINGLE. After the AP story release their legal teams still contacted me with legal actions to which I shut down by throwing down the gauntlet and CHALLENGED THEM TO PROVIDE WHAT EXACTLY THEIR BOT RATIO WAS. Ended that abruptly. Even Christian meeting sites are rife with this and is really abusing folks as real Christian types are more trusting to begin with. I have a very popular okcupid review at Sitejabber. It has a few 100k readers at last check earlier this week. I was contacted by okc when that went up. I still have an okc account, they dont know. Its for occasional visits for updates and spying. BE SAFE GUYS. Know that legally EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE DATING SITES ARE OFFICIALLY REGISTERED AS "ENTERTAINMENT", therefore no actual obligations or responsiblities are implied. Never forget this. I hope this was helpful.
Steve MaGouirk (4 months ago)
Thank you for letting me know someone else out there has seen what is going with theses sites and how to remedy the blunders and how I am getting scammed burned and wasting my time and energy investing in something that I will never be able to enjoy due to the lies and bots and the people promoting it. Have to admit it is addicting I guess they know that too so play on the weakness. Bring entertainment to capture and use entertainment to change public outlook and beliefs to controll you.
Jonathan coleman (8 months ago)
What pofsafe.com?
dalex 77 (3 months ago)
Yup
Jonathan coleman (8 months ago)
Is it a scam
Jeremiah Carter (8 months ago)
dawg what about "craigslist dating network"
Jose Sanchez (6 months ago)
Jeremiah Carter People lose their lives just doing any kind of transactions there.
mike gunthner (8 months ago)
Got scammed by datebooksingle.com
david fishwick (8 months ago)
have you seen the youtube videos advertising a "dating" or "hookup" id.......i suspect these too are fraud sites?
Jose Sanchez (6 months ago)
david fishwick Even if they aren’t, you don’t know what kind of disease you could catch from somebody. I would stay away.
Ronin Eternales (8 months ago)
Yes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_pKMUduEQs
FALCONS 2112422 (8 months ago)
What about safedatingservice site ?
Jose Sanchez (6 months ago)
FALCONS 2112422 Haven’t heard of that one.
Ronin Eternales (8 months ago)
sounds like a scam,, godaddy took er down
Peter Grabler (9 months ago)
hi.what about dating securit agreement? and thej do tell jou its not free..dsa id??? does it exist?
Peter Grabler (9 months ago)
dating security arrengment id...even its on youtube as well..
Ronin Eternales (9 months ago)
sorry i don't know what that is.
okoro kingsley (9 months ago)
If you pay do you get the hookers???
okoro kingsley (9 months ago)
Wow thanks I'm a living testimony, my story is a sad one, thank God I saw this before I would have lost $500
Ronin Eternales (9 months ago)
There are no hookers, there are no girls. Just some dweeb in an apartment in Dhaka.
George Sciblo Jr (9 months ago)
Must have 100.00 dollars on debit card? For what?
Dawson Nance (9 months ago)
I lost money bc I was to stupid.
Ryan Scherbluk (6 months ago)
Don't worry man it sucks being out of your money but we all learn we all been there.
juni ash (7 months ago)
Same bruv...lost about 300$ trying to get dating ID
The Common Sense Nation (8 months ago)
Same thing happened to me when i was 16. I was too excited for sex and wasn't thinking right
George williams (9 months ago)
Dawson Nance don't feel bad. I just got duped with an age verification for a video chat. You live n u learn
Dxtyj Yftghj (9 months ago)
you saved my ass i was going to try this "100%free" naruto porn game thanks for saving me time and money im just going to look up real free anime porn games :3
Yassir Arqoubi (9 months ago)
i hate scams
Brian Ray (9 months ago)
what about this site?   I think it a scam tried to tell my brother but he won't listenhttps://bit.ly/2HC2Nu2
Big Daddy (1 month ago)
Bro I was lead to Realtor.com
Ronin Eternales (9 months ago)
Same stuff, crappy overpriced dating site ... By pressing 'Click Here For Access', I certify that I have read and agree to the complete terms of membership and billing and that the card entered above is my credit card. Your access to LocalSexFriends includes a 2 day free trial promo to Music Fans Find Love. If you choose to remain a member of Music Fans Find Love beyond the trial period, your membership will renew at thirty nine ninety nine. Your membership to LocalSexFriends will be Free for Lifetime. You will also receive a free membership to InboxPartners.
dan020350 (11 months ago)
-.-
Roy De Guzman (1 year ago)
this is not safe either right? https://www.meetupassurance.com/register27.html
Jesse Schwarz (6 months ago)
Nothing is safe.. as soon as they mention money run away..
Roy De Guzman (1 year ago)
What if i already given my card details, is there any way i could cancel it? im feeling nervous right now.. im so dumb
Jose Sanchez (6 months ago)
Roy De Guzman There are a lot of dating sites where you are required to pay money. That doesn’t always mean the site is a scam. Usually it’s the people who have profiles on sites, that try and scam you. Many of them are men, hiding behind women’s photos, pretending to be a woman.
Connor Skorupski (7 months ago)
Hey, I did the same thing that you did, how did you cancel it?
MBK gamers1408 (10 months ago)
yeah i keep getting these stupid questions about hookup ids it really sucks
Roy De Guzman (1 year ago)
Ronin Eternales i already figured out sir. i checked my email and luckily found in on the spam folder. i cancelled the subscription on my card before it charges anything. thanks
Ronin Eternales (1 year ago)
They have your email and your credit card. Who is they? I don't know either. I do not know what other information they have about you but that exposes you the risk of identity theft. If you know how, cancel the service/trial period or whatever. Cancel your credit card and get a new one, look in your email and spam folder for billing emails, watch for phishing scams in the future. If you can afford it get Lifelock. The site below is broken, so I cant really tell what it does but there is no legit get verified service. Good Luck.
chris staten (1 year ago)
Thanks. The video was very interesting to see how these sites are set. However, if we stop and think about the situation, some of these sites are saying they can varify that someone is not a sex offender by running cerdit card information, therse's no way that information can be determined by a credit card. Sex offenders are allowed to have a cerdit card/bank card and legal records of that nature aren't attached one's credit report. That should be common sence I would think. The age verification sites are a little more convincing but still there's no 100% way they can verify one's age that way as, yes anyone can get a bank card or prepaid credit card(like the ones you can buy at Wal-Mart, reloadable visa for example)
Ronin Eternales (1 year ago)
Your logic is correct. However, Not everybody is thinking properly when they sign up. They get played. 30 days later... #WTF is that charge on my credit card?
chris staten (1 year ago)
My point is that with a little thought one should not fall for these scams.
the sludgehammer801 (1 year ago)
Hey RONIN, I love your videos. Have you heard of www.freeverifyage.com ?? It looks kind of shady to me haha
Ronin Eternales (1 year ago)
There is nothing there but a blank page. Usually, when one of the "girls" sends you a link, it will have a sub directory or page after it such as scampage .com/susieq. Other than that, the URL and the anonymous Panamanian registry say it is a scam.
Lucky Fam (1 year ago)
Thank you bro. I almost got scammed by one and I was going to enter my credit card details. Watching this video stopped me from doing anything silly and giving those scammers my bank details. Thank you once again.
Daniel Smith (1 year ago)
Are there any real security dating ID sites
Jose Sanchez (6 months ago)
Daniel Smith I think one dating site may be okay? It’s called “Farmersonly dot com.
Daniel Smith (1 year ago)
Thanks man I almost got nailed by three of them But my capital one card had insufficient funds And now I'm getting a new card in six days Thanks again
Ronin Eternales (1 year ago)
None that you will find from someone contacted on Craigslist. Instant Checkmate is a legitimate service, that you pay to verify your date is who they say they are and no criminal record etc. This is the type of service you would use if you started to get serious with someone but you had reason to doubt their background. Affiliate link to Instant Checkmate http://trkur.com/311394/7614?s1=yt Some dating sites are offering verified profiles as a premium service, or to celebrities. If you are just looking to hookup, nothing that is specifically designed for the purpose. You can hack it, by getting a verified Twitter or Instagram account, but that isn't all that easy sometimes. You can be reasonably assured that if you find someone on Tinder, and they give you an Instagram account, that they are genuine. You can also be reasonably assured that this genuine person is just building up a following so that they get paid as in influencer and your chances of meeting them in person are slim, none, and Elvis just left the building.
DAMA SCENE (1 year ago)
Hi, how about if your card is declined by the site.
Jesse Schwarz (6 months ago)
I did it by debt card and I was already -4.00 so it doesn't let me spend anything at all thank God.
Jesse Schwarz (6 months ago)
Same for me too! We got so damn lucky
Jose Sanchez (6 months ago)
DAMA SCENE I had a problem like that. You have to call your bank to have the money be paid to the site. They are trying to protect you.
DAMA SCENE (1 year ago)
Ronin Eternales Thanks
Ronin Eternales (1 year ago)
Hi Dama. That makes you lucky I suppose. I am concerned that you do not know who has the credit card. I do not know the white label dating service nor what their security measures are (Think Equifax breach). I do not know what information they share with their branded dating site customers/companies. I would cancel the card and get a new one. See my blog post "Age and Date Verification Scam" https://theonlinedatingscams.com/age-or-date-verification-scam/ for a comprehensive answer. Good Luck.
Jordan Velasco (1 year ago)
Thank you very much
Aten Akehnaton (1 year ago)
lol I went around looking for a scam, hit a site and saw an image of a young woman, probably in her early 20s and it stated in the info she was 40. Put out personal email. So having a separate email I use solely on dating sites I hit em up. Always curious how these scams work. Hooked 3 scammers and been trolling em a bit.
Jose Sanchez (6 months ago)
Aten Akehnaton You’re wasting your own time though on people that aren’t worth it. Oh well, it’s your life. I wouldn’t bother.
Robert Dore (1 year ago)
I just dodged a huge bullet by telling a so called hot 28 year old from Greenford West London to bugger off.
John Public (1 year ago)
great video
richard fote (1 year ago)
thanks mr ronin.   I have a question?  are these  women  who use this  service  getting a kick back?   there sore losers on rejection.
Ronin Eternales (1 year ago)
There are no women. The money trickles from the porn site, or fake dating site, back to the spammer eventually. Middle men abound. Part 2 will show how. On some occasions, there is a real cam girl, who may or may not be aware of the underlying scam, or other charges that occur. Regardless, there is no girl you will meet.
drubu716 (1 year ago)
A "lady" tried to lure me to a site called Secured Online Seekers( SOS). It seem very suspicious. I can't find this site on my browser. "She" sent me link & it looks just like the site you were on.
Daniel Coe (1 year ago)
Thanks this let me know I was being led on by a bot earlier tonight and luckily site declined my card.
Thomas West (1 year ago)
Until I heard you speaking on the subject of Online Dating Scams, I was about to sign up. I greatly appreciate the info, now I'm just going to hold myself...doesn't cost me a thing. Again ty
DAVID CATHOLDI (1 year ago)
a woman on local milfs sent me her cc no. to use on the get verified site? why would she do that? [email protected]
Ronin Eternales (1 year ago)
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Short answer, No, it's the same scam. There is a purposefully hidden $39.99 per month charge to a rotation of crappy dating sites. Here is an analysis of the site on my blog: https://wp.me/p713cT-1fP This also helps others when they search on the site name, they will find it on my blog and know it is a scam. Thanks again.
João Henriques (1 year ago)
Ronin Eternales is this one safe? http://securedonlineseekers93c.bitballoon.com/
Ronin Eternales (1 year ago)
Thank you for bringing this up. I have been meaning to comment on it. This is a common occurrence when you get in the robot script cycle, you get several emails asking you to sign up, eventually they give you a CC number to use instead. I do not know what happens if you use that credit card number. What I do know is that IT IS A FELONY to attempt to use a credit card that you are not authorized to use. Laws vary state to state, but basically IT IS FRAUD. Speculation: If you use this card number, you are then guilty of a crime, and you subject yourself to potential blackmail from the place where you used it.
Alexander Espinoza (1 year ago)
Thanks u so much for talking true website dating i will wach more video your.
John Joseph (1 year ago)
so... yes please complete this documentary for entertainment reasons, its awesome cuz i could have been dumb or desperate enough to fall for this (if i wasn't a mini genius)
Honey lash (1 year ago)
how to join this site without cc cuz i dnt hav neither of them
Ronin Eternales (1 year ago)
you dont, its a fraud.
PHOENIX FIRE (1 year ago)
thank you
Michael Barger (1 year ago)
thanks man

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